We killed these guys already (quest)

Any advice on this one? I am sure someone out there completed it. it seems as if the AI doesn't have to play by the same rules I do here. They can produce troops so quickly in mass quantity.I am not even doing this on elite.

If anyone has a strategy to this I could certainly use the help, I have failed/restarted this quest about 50 times.

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I have beaten it on elite a few times. I havent figured out all strats yet so this is just an example...

I go for a map with water, either small ponds or the little lake. Then up to age4 fast with cheaper age4 advisor and wall up a bit.

Now the water... I fish a bit while heading for age4 and when I hit age4 I go ballista trireme in the lake. Ballista trireme are quite nice in taking out elites from a distance (without getting hurt themselves) and once u got some (10-15 or more) u can hold ur ground forever. Then build up troops and kill the AI.

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I just go early 2 archery ranges and mass archers. I add up more archery ranges as I get enough resources. I also stay pretty long in age2, at least until I get 100 pop, often times 140 or until I can constantly produce from 3-4 military buildings. When i have enough archers to easily fend off their attacks, I go and run around their base killing their villagers and eventually I get a big archer ball (40-50++ archers) and I just kill everything.

But essentially, you want a to make a lot of army in age 2. At least 3, maybe 4 military unit producing structures before aging up to age3. You don't even need to go to age 3 tbh. With 60-70 age 2 archers with constant reinforcements, you can easily stay in age 2 and kill everything.

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I have my best gear on hoplites/peltasts. I level up to Age2, build about 5 Hypathists to kill the first 2 waves or clubmen, level up to Age3. In Age3 I build hoplites in 2 barracks and peltasts in 1 archery range. Having the hoplites blocking in melee/archers in front and the peltasts optimized for attack kills the enemies very fast. Hoplites have much hitpoints, so you do not have to rebuild many of them and the peltasts should not die at all, because they stand in the second row. Maybe hoptlites/archers will also work well against melee units, but not so good agains other archers. Then build up to 40 hoplites and 20 peltasts. With the Age4 advisor I can level up to Age4 with 600 food/wood/gold and 360 stone, but you should be able to kill the enemy even without that.

Everything depends on the gear you have. With all the gear from the Arena, you can kill them very easy. With only +20% gear it is harder. I havent tried it on elite yet.