Thursday, April 12, 2012

Quest "I need a hero"

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Ok, I've tried this quest several times, and it is seriously ruining my enjoyment of the game, I am a average rts gamerbut the amount of problems I am having with this mission just right up from the start is insane..


The firstattack that comes about 3 mins in is fine, I manage it even though I lose pretty much all my men.


then instantly after that another wave of anti infantry enemies attack, I am seriously not seeing how I am supposed to be able to build up a defense force that can stand this kind of a beating this early in the round..


I would love some tips from the people who have completed it in the past.


Also anyone else banging theyr heads against the wall because of this quest ? :P

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A few thoughts for you...

First off, it is possible that your player level is a factor, what level are you? The quest is level 16, so if you are lower than that there will be some built in added difficulty. Leveling up on some other quests and then giving it another shot will certainly help.

The quest supports co-op, so you can also try getting a buddy to help out.

Also, this is one of the few remaining Greek quests from the beta that gave folks some trouble and did not yet get a review pass from the team. We don't typically nerf difficulty overall, but we do tend to be pretty controlled with the first few attacks - which seems to be exactly where you are most concerned.

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I was lvl 17 at the time, so lvl was not the issue.


I ended up Co-oping up with someone to complete it, but we still got destroyed several times before we even got to start the game, until we finally lucked out and had a play trough were the enemies villagers charged headfirst into my spearmen, before the actual attack. which completly ruined the Ai's economy.


I do think the early part of this quest needs reviewing, I am by no means a great rts player, but the way the ai was pounding me with troops seemed way over the top, especially for such a low lvl quest.

|||Thanks for the update Sinful Fox, I added the quest to our internal list of things to review.|||I did it man! After like 4 or 5 tries, i came up with a crazy strategy, and it worked in the first attempt, and it was kinda easy too. Put your first 6 villies on food, and start making more to wood, putting 1 or 2 more on food on the way. Get enough food to age up and have 15 villies. Then stop making villies and collecting food, just split them between stone and wood, like 8-9 of them on stone, and the remaining on wood (storehouse near stone + wood if you are lucky). Then, just start building Guard Towers around your Town Center (with the woodcutters, keep the miners mining), with a full stone mine you can build up to 6. After that you are good to go back to the standard gameplay. A tip that helped me and i found out randomly (lol): use your scout as bait for the enemy troops, they will go after it, then your towers will just kill them while they try to catch the scout, so your towers wont get damaged, And dont forget to keep your villagers out of the enemy sight. Walls and rushing archers also help.

Hope it helps|||Try ReshReaper's strategy. It worked for me the very first time I did (after many previous tries and almost giving up lol). Thanks Resh, you saved the day!|||I just got 15 villagers, teched to age 2, and spammed hypa's out of 2 barracks. Then built more villagers and teched to age 3 and built a bunch of hoplites and rams, and pretty much rolled them over with constant reinforcement of armory upgraded hoplites out of 2 barracks. I was lvl 21, but the gear for my hypa were really bad, and I didn't need to tech to golden age. It was my 2nd try doing this mission. The first time I tried to boom with ~30 villagers and no army, and I think you can guess what happened to that.
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I am going to post a general strategy that I use for most quests including elite quests that sorta makes the start of the game a breeze if you have the micro and macro to do it.

A lot of quests especially elite quests I notice them sending a good amount of troops at you early on and it can be hard to deal with. I personally like to build up an economy so when I was leveling I would get destroyed by early aggression. I then learned to basically exploit the AI while getting my economy up. First I bind my scout to 3, you can use something else or don't bind it at all whatever you are comfortable with. Then I do some basic resource scouting and get villagers. By the time the first attack comes my scout is back in base. Now here is where the micro/macro comes into play. The AI will focus your scout if you go close enough and if there are no villagers around. Make sure that you kite the ai away from your villagers and then run your scout in circles while the town center kills all of the enemy units. This works very well if you the apm to support it. As a note I generally run around 250-300 in sc2. You can use shift-move commands if you need to build something or check on something. But this allows you to build up a huge economy or build up a lot of troops without losing any. The only time this stops working is when there are archers because you can't really kite them. I also have the mummy bandages on my scout so if he does get hit he heals it back.

|||250-300 SC2 APM?? That's how fast IMMVP plays, you know. With that kind of skill, or even anywhere closer to it, I don't think this mission will be remotely a challenge.
|||I didn't have trouble on any mission but the defense of arsinoe. Just giving him some tips which help on most quests. And I'm mad mvp for bunkering in Nestea. This won't work against another person though unless they attack your scout in which case run back towards thier base.|||The AI does keep coming at you constantly for a very long time. I did the thing with building the guard towers, plus some upgraded walls, and also, once I got rolling a bit on the economy I built some priests, which once I had about 6 of them they started converting enough of the enemy attack force that their attacks failed quickly and I wound up with some of their troops as my own. The AI eventually stopped attacking and then I built my own assault force and wiped them out. Tough mission but doable.

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